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Mudboy, maybe the letter was something about his property being rezoned?? If it lies in atlantic county and is 900+ acres along the gsp then this would be highly coveted land by land conservation organizations I would think. They are trying to preserve the Elwood Corridor. I'm sure a land...

Not really sure what to make about that. Getting a letter saying something about 'preserved land' sounds odd at best. If your buddies land was preserved he would know about it, a land preservation organization would have had to pay him if he owned it, or buy it from him. Sounds like there is...

Dave, here is the deal, I don't really know the whole story with your friend. Was the land preserved? Which means he was paid for the land, right? If he has 900 acres and the state bought it I'm sure he got paid ok?

Mudboy, I read all the text you have lots of good points. Here is the one major issue in this state. You have a 1 million acre forest that is extremely rare in the world, with loads of rare species only found here, THIS PLACE IS TRUELY SPECIAL, MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS and take it for...

Dude you are why your group gets no respect because of attitudes like you. No I'm not a ranger, and I'll defend orv use alot of times. What do you know about nature, I know those trees knocked down are serving a very good purpose at provide birthing habitat for several endangered species...

Just a fyi what they are doing at the old chatsworth park is for a couple reasons, the downed trees serve a purpose for a endangered species. The park was destroyed because that area isn't patrolled by Conservation officers so they wanted to eliminate the urge riders may have to go there, which...

Bill, I'll do my best to explain what I know of the process. The goal is to restore natural water flow between the bogs. Therefore the dikes are opened up, then the centers are dug out. The way the are now you have those trenches on the perimeter and the elevated center portion. The center...

I guess I spent to much time out there(nevermind you can never spend enough time out in the pines). I use to(and still do) marvel at how some of the guys on here can see a picture and know exactly where it was. Its funny how I'm now able to recognize places in the pines. You would think in...

Guy thanks very much for all that info...much appreciated. I'm thinking that it was cedar swamp on the outside, the middle is tough to say....maybe youngish cedars, savanah's?

Now that I think about I wonder what the original state was.....was in woods converted into cran. bogs.....or white cedar swamp turned into bogs?

Bob, I guess we have different views of aesthetic beauty:) Those bogs though in that state provided little habitat to the critters of the barrens. Now that they are opened up they provide great carpenter frog, fowler toad,pbtf,leopard frog painted, spotted, snapping turtle, and water fowl...

Guy, never knew that was called long causeway. Glad they dug up those bogs there, they literally had nothing in them, no water turtles, nothing. The centers were like concrete.

Does anyone know if they are blocking off stage road from 679 to n maple? How would you access allen's road by pilgrim lake if you were coming from 679? Also was greenbush paved before?.....I hate when they pave roads it takes away the pines character and leads to lots of road mortality of...

devilstoy, were is that blueberry hill photo from.....is that by pine valley c.c.?

Agreed Ben.....been wondering that all year.

Real interesting articles. I find it interesting that most of the white cedar swamps were in cape may county. I spend alot of time down there and quite honestly don't know of any real large intact cedar swamps....would have loved to seen it back then.

Those look like snake drift fences to me........probably surveying for snakes. Lots of critters are going to die as a result of this...ashame. My question is I know t/e species live there I've seen them. Now if one of these species is on the property they should receive protection according...

Hopefully these two guys OD at some point and do the world a favor......

OH yeah because working in the mortgage industry making several 100,000 dollars and subsequently sending the economy into a tailspin is much more deserved. I agree with Ben, this people are total fools they should educate themselves on what these people do before they start throwing stones.

Pinepaddler, were they drift fence type traps? FPP, in the past has had insect drift fences out there. One time when I went there was only dead fowlers toads in them.