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Right, I totally see when I look at the maps that Carranza Road was definately part of the Tuckerton Route. It is also obvious that a separate route (probably also considered the same route) that past through "Mount". One of these departures went through Atsion (via Quaker Bridge) and the other...

That's the most info I ever heard about Hampton Gate..and probably all there is to know, that is, all that's available to us now. Don't you think the gate would have been across Mossy Spung or other road that heads south from Carranza? I always like the places with the least left for some reason.

That would be something. Did someone notice how old the foundations look in this area. Also, I remember Beck or someone saying about how the "gate" at Hampton Gate was missing. Was this landmark more than just a gate? It would make sense it could have been since it was noted on old maps, but...

No, it definately says something like "Tunking or Thunking Mill" and explains it was named so for the sound it made. Yes, I'm sure they are trying to describe a stamping mill, but they are off in it's name and place it would seem. Someone should contact the appropriate historical source to ask...

I went down that road some time ago and became convinced that I was tresspassing when I came to cranberry meadows and I turned around. There were no tresspassing signs but maybe they were meant for the bog portions. People were riding around on ATVs on their property and looking at me funny...

Yeah, look into that town further and you'll find more ruins. One of the most interesting towns the Pines has to offer. Also the saddest to know it was in good standing not too long ago...based on your concept of time. Mine is skewed. That WAS the first ghost town I came upon,actually, I...

Yes, if it was indeed a Bobcat, you are very lucky to have witnessed such a spectacle! Wish I could have been there to see that. I saw some turkeys in the road near Pasadena and thought that was cool, but nothing like you saw!

Well I showed up at Pasadena today in the middle of the paintball madness and got to witness the fun for myself. There were at least 10 people there mostly wearing camoflauge and spraying paint everywhere. There was a girl on top of the remaining oven roof filming it all too. I just walked...

Thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know we weree on the right track. However, my explanation must not have been clear because I explained that we believe that the heated air from the furnace (s) would have been conducted underground through the northern tunnel and underneath the ovens (the...

Yeah, and Pasadena was recently in Weird NJ too. It is apparent too....and it pisses me off. The last time I was there, there were what I believed to be WNJ travellers. That's why I voted NO in the Directions Poll. Those WNJ guys definately read this site and will surely be exploiting it...

I would love to see the thesis as well. My Father and I have spent some time trying to figure out how the terra-cotta site used to work. We also concluded that the tunnels were part of a forced-air system that used pre-heated air. If you look at what's left of the roof on top of the ovens...

The topo maps show the former location of the house on the south side of the road west of the bridge. It's either on the 1940's topos or even on the more recent revisions. I have driven slowly by that area but never got out to look around. Glad someone else took the time.

All's well. I get passionate about these things since I see so much being laid to waste in Monmouth County. It really is upsetting and I don't have any patience for anything except total responsibility when it comes to my and others actions and attitudes. My reply was directed at the response...

Yeah, KenDawg's response was informed and not antagonistic. BTW, if a man lived in that house he liked to wear women's clothes. Maybe he did or maybe he just owned a lot of them.

Yeah, nice picture, I chose a shallow lake to fish last Sunday (February 29) and caught 5 bass over 3 pounds. I was pleasantly surprised! They were still in a tuporous sort of state . They would come to the surface and look like they wanted to jump but would not do it because I guess they were...

I live in Wall Township where real estate is worth more than your sarcastic soul. They burn down houses here of historic importance all the time. The Morris House on Sea Girt Avenue and the Giffird House near Allaire both burned down in the last 10 years. The Morris House and Gifford House were...

It doesn't look skinny like it died of starvation or even disease. Looks like a healthier specimen than some of the live ones I've seen elsewhere. It seems unusual for whatever reason. It's weird how scarce animal life appears to be when you're out there. I remember when I was at Stockton...

Well actually yes. If the local cops have too many problems with the property due people hanging around it and the safety issues, they'll be likely to want to tear it down rather than just ignore it as they can with a lot of abandoned houses. If they start worrying about it too much, they'll try...

Rattlesnake Ace's house was right where the Upton Station used to be off Route 70. I was told that by Don Taylor who is in the Foxchase book. I remember Beck said that was a hotspot for the rattlers. Actually, he sid the Mt Misery area was a hotspot which is close by.

Guaranteed, this discussion will remove history from future travellers. Newbie, your smug remark is not necessarily indicative of your contribution to this inevitabilty, but more of a symptom of it. I REALLY think all of us who are SINCERELY interested in the HISTORY should be VERY vague in our...