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No, but Ted talks about him a lot. I wish I did know him. I used to live in Presidential Lakes, and he studied not far from there on New Lisbon road. He retired in 1979, when I was 25 years old.

I'm sorry, I should have asked the question differently. I know what an excavated pond is. What I should have asked you is: where are these excavated ponds in Wharton that you feel the commission should not be overly concerned about? Oji sent the above link, and within it makes it clear that...

You mean sand mining, right? Sand mines are on land privately owned, and most of them were grandfathered into the Master Plan. What do you mean by excavated ponds?

I like this from "The Evolution of the New Jersey Pine Plains - American Journal of Botany" F. THOMAS LEDIG 2,5 , JOHN L. HOM3 , AND PETER E. SMOUSE4" "Given the several characteristics that distinguish the little trees of the New Jersey Pine Plains and their progeny—small stature, crooked...

Yes, I've heard of it. Bill Clinton sanctioned that.

Thanks for that one Ron. So there is an adaptation too. I did read somewhere (maybe Forman's book) about DNA changes.

Al, you may have missed this from several days ago. Posts 3 through 7. https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/updated-book-list-from-lost-town-hunter.9097/#post-153911

Those old rough and tumble nautical bar names are something, ain't they? The Rusty Scupper, Jack's surfside, the Crossed Daggers, the Dirty dog, etc.

It's nice to see they are still thriving. I think you were still on the Franklin Parker Preserve. Pretty hard to slip into Pine Island Bogs from where you were.

Ron, that photo was from Feb 2013. I doubt we were at the same spot. We were south of Munion Field. https://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/bass-river-headwaters-area-a-pbx-hike.9036/

I recall seeing that in Bass River state forest as well Ron. I suppose it could be that the duff on the forest floor (outside of the ditch) keeps the seeds from reaching the soil.

That's an interesting map Boyd. I created a sort of paraphrased / bullet summary of the article by Harold Lutz. It was more difficult to do than I thought because he scatters the good nuggets all around the paper. I did this for me since I have a poor memory lately, and I really like his paper...

The last paper cited by Guy above can now be found online at the below link. It is very interesting to read. Mr. Harold Lutz really did a thorough investigation on the reason the plains vegetation appears so poor compared to the rest of the pines. This was published in 1939. I am unaware of...

Very cool Boyd!

When I was a wee little boy, 8 years old if my memory serves me (1962)...I lived in Hampton Lakes. My younger brother's friend (5 years old) walked out onto the ice and went through. He did not live. One of those things that never leave your memory. Very sad.

Yeah, Ben don't like gory. Maybe they drifted over to the plains from the shooting fields on 539. Not sure if they stocked those with pheasant this year though. Likely coyote or fox got 'em.

That is quite strange, about the pheasants Ron. Were none of them eaten? That would be really weird.

That is a fine photograph. Makes me think of leaving the boreal forest and heading north. Can almost hear the wind howling.

Suppose you fall and slip a disc in your back out there. Here you are, 5 hours later at night, flat on your back, and you see a helicopter looking for you. I'd turn on that strobe pronto.

I just got done installing a fan with light in my bathroom. They've been able to do amazing things with LED's. I remember buying an LED nightlight 10 years ago and they gave off a bluish light. I hated it. The ones in this light use a ridiculously small 6.5 watts to replace a 60 watt bulb, and...