1st Time to Jemima Mt

[this_is_nascar]

Sunday was the 1st time the wife and I had been to Jemima Mt. It's a pretty interesting place, if you're into big hills/trails. At first we didn't think we'd make it due the very wet roads leading to it, however the bypasses allowed us to get there. We were able to navigate the far right road leading up to the top. No way were we going to try the other (3) access paths up to the top, although it's clear that many have tried.

 

[BEHR655]

Gee, how did you not see the "No Motor Vehicles " sign?

 

[00xj54]

Gee, how did you not see the "No Motor Vehicles " sign?

Because it's not there anymore.

 

[this_is_nascar]

Gee, how did you not see the "No Motor Vehicles " sign?

I did not see a sign.

 

[Teegate]

If you like high spots which many of us do, I still say the most interesting one that has easy foot access to in that general area is on Carranza Road at Hampton Gate. You get a nice dropoff and massive stones.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...676604&spn=0.006116,0.012971&t=k&om=1&iwloc=A

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.80224&lon=-74.67637&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG

There is another one close-by that is on private property that I got permission to "climb" that is interesting, but not quite as interesting.

Guy

 

[PineBarransJeepster]

If you like high spots which many of us do, I still say the most interesting one that has easy foot access to in that general area is on Carranza Road at Hampton Gate. You get a nice dropoff and massive stones.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...676604&spn=0.006116,0.012971&t=k&om=1&iwloc=A

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.80224&lon=-74.67637&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG

There is another one close-by that is on private property that I got permission to "climb" that is interesting, but not quite as interesting.

Guy

Yeah but driving up hills is a lot more fun.

 

[pinelandpaddler]

PineBarra(e)nsJeepster, it may be fun, but if people keep driving on these little hills, they won't be here in a hundred years to enjoy. Stick to the peds, my Jeepin' friend.

 

[PineBarransJeepster]

PineBarra(e)nsJeepster, it may be fun, but if people keep driving on these little hills, they won't be here in a hundred years to enjoy. Stick to the peds, my Jeepin' friend.

I know its spelt wrong, and there's a difference between driving up and hill and detroying a hill. These have been there for 100's of years and in fact the pines has taken back many of the places were once barren.

 

[Ben Ruset]

I know its spelt wrong, and there's a difference between driving up and hill and detroying a hill. These have been there for 100's of years and in fact the pines has taken back many of the places were once barren.

Sure - but nobody was dragging horses and wagons up those hills for hundreds of years.

I am pro-4WD by the way. I just know that too much vehicle traffic will destroy places. If you tread lightly, then everything is cool.

Guy should post his then and now picture of Old Half Way.

 

[pinelandpaddler]

Jeepster,

I hope you don't take too unkindly to my "preaching," as I wouldn't want to get off on the wrong foot with anyone here. From what I have gathered from your posts, you seem to love the Pines, and I can see that you do alot by way of cleaning it up. I really appreciate that, and I appreciate Jeeping in the Pines. I am of the (strong) opinion that rompin' on hills and through streams (even the tiny ones) goes a long way in doing damage on many fronts. These little hills in South Jersey are precious few, and are subject to a fairly rapid rate of erosion, by geological standards. When vehicular traffic causes damage such as seen in the second photo posted by this_is_nascar, these erosional rates increase exponentially. Let's respect these "mountains" for the treasures they are and not squander them.

The other half of my sermon concerns streams. Don't get me wrong. I've wheeled through streams on a few occasions, but my conscience forbade me to do it after having become conscious of the ecological fragility and relative importance of these waterways. There are a myriad other reasons not to ford streams and wheel hills, but this sermon is getting long, and I really hate preaching.

Anyways, it's good to have you here, Jeepster. I hope you don't mind me expressing my opinion. I just felt the need to.

 

[this_is_nascar]

Sorry guys. I didn't mean to start a confrontation with my post. I can guarantee you that if I saw the well-known "No Motorized Vehicles Past This Point" sign, I would not have proceeded by vehicle. There was absolutely no sign posted. There's a difference, in my opinion, between tearing-up an area as shown in the one picture and slowly maneuvering up/down a path. I'm not one of these people that want to tear up a road for the sake of doing so. I'm also not one of these people that rut-up a puddle/hole, only to make it easier for some unsuspecting wheeler to get stuck in a hole that has 3" of water on top of 18" rut.

 

[RednekF350]

Down here in Pestletown the Forest Fire Service just finished dozing and "fixing" about a mile and a half of woods road off the end of my street.
They turned a passable road with several hard-bottomed holes into a total disaster. The hard-bottomed holes are now 100' stretches of slop with the consistency of cow sh-t.
The 4x4 kids have found it and words out .
The FFS guys have defeated themselves on this one and probably won't be able to use the road in 6 months.
I have been wheeling and dirt biking the pines over 30 years and find that most 4x4 people respect the woods.
The most numb-nutted wheelers that I have occasion to yank out are 17-20 years old with either daddy's truck or a rolling parts wagon with 44's and a blue smokin' big block.
Scott

 

[gagliarchives]

would you believe I have passed it a thousand times and never went there?

 

[Teegate]

Guy should post his then and now picture of Old Half Way.

Well, I found the photo from "Then" but I have not found the "Now" yet so I can't post them now.

Guy

 

[bobpbx]

Gotta say, I do love that last photo. That would make a great painting. Maybe its just me, but it is quintisssentially the pines. And, it is an excellant representation of the Jemima Mount area.

 

[woodjin]

Yeah, I agree with you Bob, that is a nice shot!!

 

[LARGO]

Down here in Pestletown the Forest Fire Service just finished dozing and "fixing" about a mile and a half of woods road off the end of my street.
They turned a passable road with several hard-bottomed holes into a total disaster. The hard-bottomed holes are now 100' stretches of slop with the consistency of cow sh-t.The 4x4 kids have found it and words out .
Scott

Out riding this Morn' early, 7:00 I took this stretch of "Wharton Ave".
After the State did the deed I've been down it but not until after some good rain and the formentioned "4X4 KIDS" did it occur to me just how bad this turned out! Absolutely useless !! To the state persons who decided this was wise..... Nice job guys! You just destroyed this road, completely.

g.

 

[00xj54]

Out riding this Morn' early, 7:00 I took this stretch of "Wharton Ave".
After the State did the deed I've been down it but not until after some good rain and the formentioned "4X4 KIDS" did it occur to me just how bad this turned out! Absolutely useless !! To the state persons who decided this was wise..... Nice job guys! You just destroyed this road, completely.

g.

There is by passes for every single hole on that road.

If they're closing the road or whatever, that's lame because there is ton of garbage down that road that the "4X4 Kids" would have cleaned up on the Pines Clean up at the end of October.

 

[LARGO]

There is by passes for every single hole on that road.

If they're closing the road or whatever, that's lame because there is ton of garbage down that road that the "4X4 Kids" would have cleaned up on the Pines Clean up at the end of October.

Being off today, I was just again down the Wharton Ave moments ago scouting trash of which there is plenty. With all due respect, yes there are passes, but passes just make for more damage and to be honest, many of your "passes" barely suit my Quad. It's easy enough for me to navigate but any.... vehicle would just worsen the situation unless it travelled in a very delicate manner. Please take no offense but it's a wreck and with hunting season coming it's just gonna get worse. If the 4x4 kids "would have" cleaned up, rest assured... I will.

G.

 

[PineBarransJeepster]

A dirtbike or quad will tear up road 100x faster then a truck will.