Cape May County Explorations
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So, you feel it is a Morus rubra (Red) Based on the straight ridges of the tree trunk and the leaf.. Did you see any leaves with side lobes, but that's not required. Is the size of the leaf 4 to 7 inches, with fine hairs on the under side. Our photo shows the trunk as straight curvy deep ridges, as I see it as a more scaly texture with straight ridges.. Did you meaure the circumference of the tree trunk. How tall in the trunk? Any fruit?
With all said, you may be correct. This is what I've been using to ID a Mulberry.
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BTW; the Red Mulberry (S2?) is suppose to be present in Cape May County, as is the Swamp Cottonwood (S2). Both would be great finds.
With all said, you may be correct. This is what I've been using to ID a Mulberry.
Red Mulberry vs White Mulberry: Identification
These species are usually easy to tell apart if looking at a pure species, but they readily hybridize and form intergrades, and it may not be possible to identify all individuals. Red mulberry mostly occurs in mature bottomland forests whereas white mulberry is more likely as a pioneer species...
BTW; the Red Mulberry (S2?) is suppose to be present in Cape May County, as is the Swamp Cottonwood (S2). Both would be great finds.
No, it's Morus alba. I never thought it definitely was Morus rubra. I spoke to my friend, who's good on these. His comments:
" (that is) classic (+/-) hybrid material. Tips not long accuminate enough; has to be hairy on surface below; no shine on top surface; petiole also has to be obviously hairy. This is the morus that is most annoying that I run into--very suggestive of rubrum but short one or more characters. Keep looking...can't believe this species is gone from the state."
" (that is) classic (+/-) hybrid material. Tips not long accuminate enough; has to be hairy on surface below; no shine on top surface; petiole also has to be obviously hairy. This is the morus that is most annoying that I run into--very suggestive of rubrum but short one or more characters. Keep looking...can't believe this species is gone from the state."
Yes, I agree. It is a hybrid. Did you open the link for 'red mulberry vs white mulberry". I think it is good site.
Well. keep looking.
Well. keep looking.
Yes, I did open that, and it's got a few good tips. I like how it noted that if the leaves are lobed, even the lobes can have long tips.
When I see a mulberry tree in the Pine Barrens, livestock first comes to mind. Garden farms here planted them as feed supplement to cut production costs. Smith’s (1953) book, Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture was a popular guide that was promoted by Soil Conservation Service. A copy resided on our Richland Garden Farm bookshelf. Chapter X was titled, “A summer pasture tree for swine and poultry—the mulberry.” Mulberries were commonplace in chicken runs.
According to The Vineland Historical Magazine (1930: 196), in 1878 Charles K. Landis formed an Italian Silk Growers Society, which was active in the New Italy and Garden Road settlements. Fourteen of the families had grown silk back in Italy.
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According to The Vineland Historical Magazine (1930: 196), in 1878 Charles K. Landis formed an Italian Silk Growers Society, which was active in the New Italy and Garden Road settlements. Fourteen of the families had grown silk back in Italy.
S-M
That's interesting Mark, and it makes sense. I lived in Augusta Georgia (army brat) for 3 years, and there was one outside my bedroom window. I was 5 or so, and I loved eating them.
If you find one down your way that is a true Morus rubra, and not a Morus alba or a hybrid with M. alba, let me know, I'd like to see it.