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Do you know of any north of the Mullica? I was riding around Greenwood WMA today looking for a small bog system I saw on Bing! I didn't find it but I discovered that Whiting has changed a lot since the 80's.
 

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Do you know of any north of the Mullica?

No, I don't--not unless someone has them in their yard. The legend goes that they used to be here in Bamber and on Pasadena Road, among some other location or two.

I really don't think they are native to the pines, since you never hear of them in a bog; its always alongside such and such road. In "The Plants of Southern NJ...1910"....Stone lists them in Bamber, Forked River, Landistown(sp?) and Hammonton.
 

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Oak and fern I'm looking up. Is the other a Carex?
 

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The fern is Onoclea sensibilis L. This one was in Franklin Parker the base of leaves looked like Flypoison but a single shoot 3'-4' long grew from the middle.
 

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Went to Millville today. Very interesting stuff down there!
 

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Which Spiranthes?
 

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That mushroom turned out nice! It looks like an "Everything" bagel :)

Guy
 

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Maybe I should try toasting it and eating it with cream cheese. For the Spiranthes I'm thinking tuberosa.In the post above no.4. Sagittaria teres 5.Eriocaulon parkeri.
 

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Maybe I should try toasting it and eating it with cream cheese. For the Spiranthes I'm thinking tuberosa.In the post above no.4. Sagittaria teres 5.Eriocaulon parkeri.

I don't know Tom, it does not look robust enough to be tuberosa, but photos can be deceiving. That end one looks like bugle weed...Lycopus. The second one is a Juncus, probably canadensis.

PS: the third one in post 588 looks like New York Ironweed.
 

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I think these are all reeds. They are growing in a small depression along with some Vacinnium macrocarpon. Today I ordered The Illustrated Companion to Gleason and Cronquist's manual. It's a lot easier to ID with pictures.
 

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I think these are all reeds. They are growing in a small depression along with some Vacinnium macrocarpon. Today I ordered The Illustrated Companion to Gleason and Cronquist's manual. It's a lot easier to ID with pictures.

Each of those is of the Genus Juncus Tom. The first one looks like Juncus debilis. The second one is a vegetative growth that very often forms on Juncus canadensis. I would not be surprised if each were J. canadensis as its form varies somewhat. There is a rare species, Juncus caesariencis (NJ Rush) that looks like Canadensis but has a scabrous surface on the stem and leaves. I saw that out in the Plains with Guy the other day.

A rush usually has 3 tepals and 3 sepals, and it looks like "lily turned to stone".
 

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Our first stop was a park/trail by a big dam(Union Lake?). Then we went to a swamp a couple miles away. Speaking of Millbillies, two friends of mine were working on a building in Millville. A plumber was just finished installing a water fountain. One of my friends was thirsty and asked the plumber if it was ok to get a drink because sometimes you have to let the water run awhile to clean out the junk in the pipes. The plumber replied "You don't want to drink this water, did you get a good look at the people in this town"
 

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Our first stop was a park/trail by a big dam(Union Lake?). Then we went to a swamp a couple miles away. Speaking of Millbillies, two friends of mine were working on a building in Millville. A plumber was just finished installing a water fountain. One of my friends was thirsty and asked the plumber if it was ok to get a drink because sometimes you have to let the water run awhile to clean out the junk in the pipes. The plumber replied "You don't want to drink this water, did you get a good look at the people in this town"

Be careful, those guys are touchy down there. Those Bridgeton folks are touchy too.
 

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Yes, but they know that with those jokes you can remove the word Millville or Bridgeton and replace it with Browns Mills(or Bamber) and the joke is still funny!
 
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