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the problem with the law is that it is way too black and white. While the implementation of a law is usually with good intention, the discretion of the prosecutor is often too politically motivated. In an attempt to avoid endless debate and subjectivness, the judicial system and it's enforcers...

Where did you here of this particular occurance? There was an inncident in '57 when some officials with the Dept of conservation discovered the "charred remains" of some identified animal. I don't believe it was ever analyzed, so some thought it was the death of the Jersey Devil and others...

Hey, I remember that trip, that was pretty early on after we met.

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Mt. Misery brook would be a likely candidate for a "bank cave" as it is characterized by high banks. Although, Jodi, I have been up and down most the length of this river and have not seen a cave. Could have been hidden well, and I wasn't really looking. There are other rivers in the area...

One thing to consider: if you approach a livery explaining you are a charity, you might be able to recieve a huge discount on the rentals if you provide 1) some advetising/write up/ honerable mention of the livery's contribution to the charity in a newletter (if the charity has a newletter) or...

Yes, if it was Artesian I guess a run off would be in order. One guess on it's close proximity to the Bisphams mill branch may lie in the hardships in digging the well further away from the stream...there is a very dramatic elevation almost immeditely east (away from the stream) of the well...

thanks for your observations and thoughts Jerseyman. I believe the well theory seems the most likely. The pit is approx. 3' across eitherway and very round which seems within the size range of a well. Interestingly, when we first came upon it, it immeditely associated the smell with old...

That was great Guy, thanks for posting!

I don't know Bob, kids are still kids. I went to boy scout summer camp in the '80's, and while we didn't have most of what you mentioned above we still had alot of TV and stereo withdraw to go through, ended up we didn't miss it that much once we got in the woods. I think summer camp still has...

All right then, we'll let it slide. :)

Atsion lake (Wharton sf), pakim pond (lebanon sf), and Lake Absegami (bass river sf) all have cabins. You don't necessarily have to rent them for a week, I know I have done so for two or three day rentals. Some of the cabins on Atsion have showers. The TV thing is pushing it though, what do...

All right, yeah, you need to get out more.

Jodi, I know this area well. Is there anymore information that was given to you about the cave? Not so much location as, for example, where this person heard of it? Did they say it was a cave in the traditional sense, or a place called "the cave"? Jeff

$44,000/year. Holy s##t!! How many acres Scott?

No, he was a younger guy, early 20's. Yes that farm house is in the area, the state put up no trespassing signs on it, there were other structures also. Jeff

I know about that fishing withdraw thing! I had some luck last week on that warm day. A warm day in Winter tends to sometimes be a feeding frenzy but not aways. Jeff

I visited some bogs on Saturday that Bob had suggested I try fishing. Not much luck fishing but further attempts will be needed to fully explore the fishing potential of the area. Beautiful area. While back there I met a guy and engaged in some converstion. He expressed an impressive...

Great shots Bob!!

Here are some turkey tracks I took a picture of a while back. The turkey was only a couple dozen paces ahead. My boot is size 11 1/2.