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It would take some doing to get truly "lost" on this trail. A few lost minutes on a road or fire plowline followed by some backtracking, that's about it. Don't misunderstand...I really like the trail, just not so much the heavy hand of man.

Those are based on the more extensive, wonderful New York-New Jersey Trail Conference maps that are printed on Tyvek, regularly updated, and available for purchase (reasonable prices). Really nice maps. I don't believe the state is involved in creating them in any way although I could be wrong.

At the risk of sounding like a total ingrate, which I don't want to be but uncomfortably recognize that I might be (since I am a user but not a maintainer of the Batona Trail), does anyone share my dismay at the over-blazing of this trail? I have stood in certain places along the trail and been...

That seems to be exactly it. Most of us are reasonable and essentially agree. There really shouldn't be rancor here. I mean...I am a new member/poster here so shouldn't presume to speak for the members at large, but have read enough to believe that this is a mainly level-headed group of...

Ah, I see. Thanks! So does the adult assume a posture that might cause a predator to think that it too has the ability to inflict pain? Nice trick!

What was he warning you about, and what might the outcome have been?

Never?? I cannot imagine how that is possible. I wish I had her...constitution?

I know. Just being a little sensitive. As a woman, it bugs me how exposed I am when nature calls. The thought of cameras is kind of disturbing. :eek:

Also, I guess the notion of "privacy" on public land is sort of an oxymoron. I realized this after I wrote it. Although I do not like the concept of being "watched" and recorded, by people.

Just curious: this was public land? Is it legal to set up cameras and then leave them on public land? I came across one of these several years ago in a fairly remote public place near where I live and it felt like an invasion of privacy.

Can't disagree with that.

So it is probably a good thing for these snakes to prevent other roads from becoming as heavily used as Carranza Road.

The perfect outcome of this whole thing would be what? All the roads that currently exist remain open to law-abiding citizens who treat the land, plants, their fellow humans and non-human inhabitants with respect. Using any vehicle off these many, many miles of established roads has to be...

Kayak Karl, I just recently discovered the Sawyer mini and I love it! It's awesome for short trips and/or solo use. For longer trips or places where you might need to treat and carry a lot of water over longer distances (not the Pine Barrens) or for more than one person it might not be the...

I grew up in a very small town near Hackettstown (on the list, not in the pines). Hackettstown was practically a city as far as we were concerned, a half century ago (and it bears almost no resemblance today than it did then). I sort of dislike the automatic association of hunting, fishing...

Has there been a lot of vandalism of cars recently? Over the years I've only left vehicles overnight at "secure" places like Old Crazy indicated, but in the future would like to be a bit more adventurous. For what it's worth, I prefer just filtering water no matter where I backpack--Pines or...

No doubt, New Jersey is awash in Revolutionary War history!

What do you mean? I didn't see anything in there that indicated he would be personally impacted (??) Apologies for my naivete if that's it.

Highly recommend people take a road trip to Antietam (one of the places on this list) if they've never been there before.. Not for supernatural reasons. This is hallowed ground. It's not far away and it's just a really great historic site. For anyone who has seen the "Dead of Antietam" images...