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I don't know who he is affiliated with but its the first I've seen anything about it outside of here.

I think they will need a larger location. https://www.facebook.com/events/735326556576316/

You talk of this plan but have yet to explain what it is. If it's closing down roads so the state can maintain the existing ones better I have news for you. That will never happen. Many, many existing roads have not been touched in 20+ years. Simply having traffic on the roads tear them up, more...

Thanks for posting. As I m still very angry for what has transpired over the last few days I find it hard to be completely civil so bear with me. I'd like to hear what this new Management Plan consists of and how the closures of sand roads that dead end keep people from out of state from driving...

......The same family walks in to enjoy one of their favorite spots and a fire starts from where they came in. Possibly from their own vehicle by parking too close to some dry brush because they didn't want to block the main trail. Same outcome. I don't like playing "what if....". It can go on...

Scott you beat me to it. All volunteers do it because they want to. Volunteers at soup kitchens do it so help the hungry. Volunteer firefighters do it to help the community. These volunteers do it because they don't want vehicles where they've posted. If any volunteer is asked to do something...

Maybe registered enduros. At least there are tags that can be traced. Unregistered quads and dirt bikes will be unaffected. There is no ranger in a Cherokee that can catch them if they don't want to be caught. Besides the liability if someone was seriously hurt during a chase for simply riding...

Well there are several holes in this theory. First of all closing these areas have zero impact on the targeted people. And if these locations aren't a problem they why is it needed to patrol them in the first place. By closing these locations to motor vehicles does in effect make them off limits...

That's right. My son does play in the sand there. With his matchbox cars. He must be the one their targeting :confused:

I can think of many areas that are being abused much worse then the areas blocked off. One of the reasons my family and I loved locks bridge area for picnics was how quiet it was. We could sit there and hear the dirt bikes go up and down Quaker bridge rd on the other side. We were just there...

I'm sure state vehicles can. But you keep hearing about volunteers posting the signs for the state. What about them? Is it still open to "volunteers"? So they can "protect" our pines. Patrolling sensitive areas of the forest is one thing. Shutting it off to everyone is another.

It's the beginning of the end of the pine barrens as we knew them.

Yep. I knew this was going to happen. They can't keep people out of the areas already posted how are they going to police all the new ones. All it's going to do is keep the law abiding people out. :bang:

That explains it. I might have mis iduntified them also. The shop I worked in had them around also.:)

I used to watch that show all the time. But just like anything else it seems so much more staged now. I'm sure it was staged in the beginning too but at least it didn't seem as obvious

I worked in a wood shop years ago. The same thing. Come in the morning and they are all over. If it's chipmunk they are very dry and almost entirely bug skeletons. And not along the wall like a mouse or rat.

Looks like a chipmunk. Looks like a lot of bugs in it. but it's hard to tell the size.

That's one big crawl dad:eek:

I have a basement full of toys that aren't used at all. Some not even opened. I prefer to get them out side even if it is for a short time. Rain doesn't even stop my 5 year old son from wanting being outside. I wouldn't see that as money wasted at all.

We went down to Batsto yesterday to see how it fared. They lost a few big trees but no real damage. Didn't go past the big tree since the kids wanted to go through the woods.