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Guy, I know of two threatened species which I've seen there. I've submitted forms to the state on my sightings. This is a old case resurfacing now with the excuse that it will be good for the economy. There are many groups against this, hopefully it doesn't go through this time.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/182/story/393529.html If this goes through I'll be pretty devasted. I've spent years out at this place and there are so many rare creatures out there. I have a knot in my stomach thinking about this place getting developed.

We saw some smoke in the distance today also. But this was more around rt. 72 up towards greenwood. Maybe the are doing a couple controlled burns?

Love hearing about more and more property being bought up. I was hoping when I read the title that it was going to be property purchased around Jackson road in Evesham/Medford.....I wish they would preserve that woods before the next development boom.

Thanks Chrisr. Really with snakes there is nothing to fear. Most are very harmless and need to be provoked in order to bite. Don't worry about rattlesnakes, they are very elusive, very secretive and aren't found in areas of open woods. You have to be seeking them out to find them....and...

Yeah I have the 40d with the 100mm macro lense....I need to add a better lense for things further away though......I primarily use mine for reptiles though so it works.

Yeah Al, I spent about 4-5 years hiking cumberland county alone and would love to see something like that. I feel like I'm driving up Oswego Road toward the gun club off Allen's road when I see that. Looks just like the pine barrens proper. Can someone drop a cigarette in the cumberland...

Wow, that really just depressed the heck out of me....I wish Millville had those today, really cool picture. I would love to know were that pic was shot from.

Nice shot, what kind of camera are you using? Lens?

Chrisr, it seems at the turn of the century much of south jersey had rattlesnakes. Obvioulsy given there reputation(not really deserved) they were killed anytime they were seen, which extirpated them from many areas. I know the area you speak of had them up till fairly recently and I'm sure...

Buzztail=Timber rat, I would love to find one down there, though I think they may be extirpated down there. Thats some interesting info Spung-Man, what was the cause of extinction for the Heath Hen? Habitat change?

Al, one of my favorites is the one by Jake's Landing. I need to explore the one by buckshutem.....did that auto park compromise the buckshutem one at all? I've read very old accounts mid 1600's of buzztails being rounded up and killed in the buckshutem cedar swamp.....wonder if there still there?

GermanG, if you ever see anyone in that area, or any area of the pines collecting or with a snake stick email me. In fact I'll pm you my cell phone number. Thanks

Andy, Jeff's original post was from August.....redbellies are def. hibernating this winter.

Lots of good info there Al, thanks. That area(cumberland, cape) is definetely loaded with wildlife, more so then the pines to the north. But I always find myself wondering what the area use to look like. Whether it was more piney at one point, the lack of good cedar swamps down there...

Wow something exploited in the pet market, who would have thought. Jeff, is it protected because of it being a popular aquarium fish?

If it is on the endangered list it would be illegal to touch let alone catch. Even catching to release is considered possession and can bring up to a 10,000 dollar fine. I would check the legalities first.

I'll tell what that is one awesome looking dog. Do they breed wolf/dogs? Glad it found a good home.

Scott, the turtle actually is a non native turtle. Its either a red eared slider or some sort of cooter. It isn't our native northern redbelly though. This probably explains both it being out of place and dead. Scott, how big was the snake skeleton? Could you estimate a width? Was the log...

Sorry, I may have misinterpreted your post as sarcastic....my bad. Thanks