nature friendly my ass how can you call knocking down over a couple a hundred trees nature friendly ? AND YOU SEEN SOME DUAL SPORTS AND THEY SHUT THEM DOWN . .WHAT ARE YOU GOD IS THAT WHY THEY SHUT THEM DOWN THAT IS SO STUPID.AS FOR THE GUYS QUADING DESTROYING STUFF SPEAK FOR YOUR SELF .I BEEN RIDEING QUADS 4 25 YEARS AND IAM NOT OUT THERE TO DESTROY THINGS. YOU ALMOST TALK LIKE YOUR A RANGER?
Dude you are why your group gets no respect because of attitudes like you. No I'm not a ranger, and I'll defend orv use a lot of times. What do you know about nature, I know those trees knocked down are serving a very good purpose at provide birthing habitat for several endangered species. I've been watching nature since I was a kid and have worked with that organization at helping to create habitat. And no buddy, I'm not God but these guys shut their bikes down because the realize the woods is for everyone and why throw sand and blast by me if they don't have to. And maybe your not out there to destroy things but much of the younger group of riders is. I've witnessed it time and time again. And dude I don't pretend to know about quading and mudding and all that but I know what I see on occasions, but don't come here and tell me about the natural world, because you come off sound real ignorant.....take a page out of mudboy's book on here, he can talk like an adult on here and understands compromising is the key to gaining respect and understanding among both groups.
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It is however unfortunate that you as a tax payer dont get to pick and choose where your money goes, im sure the elderly arent thrilled paying our school taxes but they have to.
Bottom line is there will never be an agreement that both sides find satisfactory on this issue. I guess if you wanted to stick it to the man you could always go and buy a enduro and ride where u want, but i doubt you or I or our children will see ATV's in the pines. I am no big fan of state or federal govt interfering in the lives of the people, but atleast this time the state is right in keeping atvs outa the state parks/pine barrens.
Maybe if the ATV users acted as if they had some concern for the local lands and half a brain and didnt tear up the wetlands and stuff you guys would have a case, but as it is you guys are your own worse enemy. To the small percentage that ride illegally and destroy the pines keep it up, your helping us keep ATV's outa the woods.
I think your buddy got shafted, he should be able to sell the land to the state at fair market value. I dont know if the state would do that or not. I know that alot of states have alot more diversity for the people that live there regarding outdoor activities. And i believe that a person should have the right to do anything they want on there land ( with in reason) with out the govt getting involved, if there are endangered species in the area then all bets are off.
And that toxic dump you guys go 4x4ing in sounds interesting, when your done mudding and go home and wash your truck is all that toxic mud being introduced into our water system?
Not really sure what to make about that. Getting a letter saying something about 'preserved land' sounds odd at best. If your buddies land was preserved he would know about it, a land preservation organization would have had to pay him if he owned it, or buy it from him. Sounds like there is more to this story in all due respect.
If i go in the pines, i'm ruining habitats, if we go to a gravels pit with clay mud holes were ruining habitats, if we go to a waste land were ruining the water systems. how about the vehicle you use everyday that puts out emmisions, how about the heat in your house, or the electric, or your lawnmower, or the lead from your guns? if we want to all play that game the human race would just be better off disapearing? sure seems to be the road youre heading down. oh a god forbid if anyone uses a boat. I guess maybe they dont do any damage?