Yes, I can see the difference, where I'm getting at, is where does it stop. I highly realize I'm on a PINE BARRENS website. i have been raised in the pine barrens and lived there for 27 years. I have also mentioned numerous times that I don't think there should be destructive 4x4 use in the pines, thats why i want to see something happen outside of the pines. I'm happy you see no problem with people buying their own property and destroying it.At least I know you wouldn't be one of the ones against it if this were to happen. I would love to see us unite and get that toxic dump of a spot and have mandatory wash-off spots before going home. I'm also happy to hear that you are more than likely in law enforcement, I highly appreciate the job that you do if I'm correct. However if you don't include going to the shooting range as a hobby, I take my words back. I'm simply stating that if we get a spot off of pinelands protected area, it would suck most of the people off of the pines and alot of destruction would halt. Believe me I love the pines, I spend about 20 hours of every week off the paved road and in the pines. The last thing I like to see is a set of ruts across a swamp, or be cruising along and hit a spot where some moron decided to do donuts with his mud tires.