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Or private property?

All muscle there!! Great pic, thanks for sharing.

A little while back I was talking to a childhood friend of my father's about a location that sounds similar to your description. If we're talking about the same location he said there was an old Boy Scout camp there. It could be a part of a larger gas stove.

It looks like cast iron. If it is I seriously doubt it came off a plane.

Happy New Year!!

I think we know of a few white cedar larger then 99"

46ers original post on this thread spelled it out perfectly map and all. He posted all this info almost a year ago. My only concern is how much this opens up vehicle access to more sessitive wetlands in Wharton. It should be monitored closely.

http://www.nj.gov/dep/newsrel/2016/16_0127.htm

I didn't get anything but my son thinks I can follow him through the woods on his electric dirt bike:)

Very well said, Bob. The only thing I'd like to add is that you said "They forgot or ignored people like us" You are correct on both. They initially forgot about people like us and then chose to ignore us when we didn't support their plan 100%. What they didn't count on was that there are more...

http://pinebarrenstribune.com/bass-river-officials-receive-earful-after-roberts-pond-is-emptied-p500-165.htm

Of course before anything would get approved the FFS would have to weigh in. But generally speaking setting up a draft point is usually something that happens in the later stages of fighting a fire when time is less critical. In the initial attack refilling from a tanker is more the norm. Also...

I agree. While a map is useful I don't agree it's necessary. You can use 1st beach as an example. It's not a road and any map wouldn't protect it any more then it already is. It's posted no motor vehicles. It is only a half a mile from the ranger station and just off a highly traveled dirt...

I use the NJ stuff called pork roll:D

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/07/2-teens-arrested-tennessee-wildfires-officials-say/95104408/

A tour of mud puddles in Wharton. Sounds like code for a jeep jamboree:D

That's just the name they gave to the fire itself.

11/22/16 @ 0500 hrs- DIVISION C, Section C6- Waterford Twp, Wharton State Forest- near Fleming Pike and Sandy Causeway Rd. 'Shadow Wildfire'. Currently estimated at 202 acres. I hear Waterford Township is reporting it contained.

It didn't look that big to me:D

We were sent there in 2000 I believe. Talking to the local crews it was all arson. There was a war going on with law enforcement and the illegal marijuana growers. They threatened to burn an acre for every plant destroyed. It was the same time of year too. I wonder if things haven't changed much.